Zombie unicorns are haunting Silicon Valley

(economist.com)

67 points | by andsoitis 4 hours ago

12 comments

  • rwmj 1 hour ago
    Cameo (an example in the article) is an interesting one. It seems like a stable, steady business, making money, should be easy to accurately value if you have access to the financials. No surprise that the "It's $1bn!!!" valuation came from Softbank Vision Fund. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameo_(website)
  • bruce511 1 hour ago
    Companies being devalued is not news. It happens on the stock market everyday.

    For companies that rely on outside investment to survive however it can become a slide to oblivion.

    If the company itself is profitable, then typically it can continue. There's no interest rate on VC investment, and if profitable it can run forever. Customers, employees, users and so on are all fine. Investors? Well, they're potentially getting some returns through dividends, but its minor and not what they were chasing.

    Of course the VC investment model is high risk. That's kinda the point. It's a bet on IPO or (valuable) acquisition. Most companies end up as neither.

    Will this affect new VC funds in the future? Maybe in the short term. But there are still enough IPOs (like SpaceX now) and still enough greedy people willing to play the lottery. Sure the absolute amount of VC money may come down, but I don't think the model is going away.

    Indeed it may start to lead to saner valuations along the way.

    • tqi 37 minutes ago
      > Of course the VC investment model is high risk. That's kinda the point. It's a bet on IPO or (valuable) acquisition. Most companies end up as neither.

      Cynically, I wonder how much of the insane (even in the moment) valuations were driven by VC firms trying to commit capital so they could collect management fees?

    • nradov 43 minutes ago
      Even if a company is profitable, depending on voting interest and board control the investors may be able to force a sale.
    • promptsaredead 1 hour ago
      Agreed. It's gonna be space, then robotics, then quantum robotics, then quantum solar nuclear robotics.

      I think it depends way more on where and how much the wealth is concentrated than anything else

  • tqi 2 hours ago
    My impression is a lot of these companies raised mega rounds right before interest rates went up, and are now able to tread water by cutting headcount enough that their revenue + interest can sustain them. To what end? Who knows...
    • dilyevsky 1 hour ago
      I know a few who are really feeling the pressure from customers now being able to vibe code part or their product and also their cloud bill is about to explode because hardware prices are through the roof
      • contingencies 1 hour ago
        SaaS was always destined for this, with or without AI. Excluding the small subset with network effects, the nominal nature of a remote execution aid in basic business process was always semi-farcical.
  • tartoran 3 hours ago
    • scrame 29 minutes ago
      now this wants me to scan a QR code with a mobile device?
      • decimalenough 6 minutes ago
        My first attempt to open the archive link took me to a Brazilian radio station that wanted me to install Adobe Flash. Second try worked fine.
        • jeffreygoesto 0 minutes ago
          Eventual consistency is enough for everybody.
  • latentframe 2 hours ago
    Zero interest rates kept many weak companies alive but they also have give great companies time to find product market fit, and the hard part is to separate the two in hind sight
  • EagnaIonat 1 hour ago
    Why post a link that people have to pay to read?

    Same article:

    https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/opinion-features/zombie-uni...

    • self_awareness 52 minutes ago
      Follow-up question: why upvote an article that you probably can't read?
  • walrus01 1 hour ago
    Zunicorn

    Zune-icorn?

    Zombicorn!

    I know of some actual in use Microsoft Zune that have outlasted many companies that were predicted to become unicorns.

  • epsteingpt 36 minutes ago
    If you think it's haunting Silicon Valley, wait til you see what's on the balance sheets of Private Equity, which holds these and many, many more overvalued companies!
  • fnord77 1 hour ago
    So, series h, i, j companies are worthless?
  • jcgrillo 37 minutes ago
    children of the zombie corn
  • andsoitis 4 hours ago
    Falling valuations spell horror for vcs. More recently launched funds have been returning markedly less money to investors than those of earlier vintages, according to the World Economic Forum. They have also underperformed the s&p 500 by a wide mark, particularly those that did not invest in a small club of artificial-intelligence superstars
  • scrame 28 minutes ago
    Can we just ban articles that have a paywall? the archive even has a QR code captcha that needs a mobile device to scan it.

    This is a pointless, shitty post. I'm glad OP likes paying for the economist, maybe they should comment over there.